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Avenger #2

As with Captain America, no real surprise since Spider-Woman has been one of Bendis’ pet character since he started on New Avengers (and was originally meant to be the lead in Alias).

What this image does tell us is, firstly, that the Avengers roster isn’t necessarily limited to the number of letters in the word ‘Avengers’ (as some people thought yesterday with the large ‘A’ behind the Cap image) – probably a pretty good job given the plethora of characters running around currently claiming Avengerhood.

Secondly, it suggest that the Heroic Age teaser that was released a couple of weeks back -

- is just that, a teaser, and not a roster for the team. That in itself suggests that the Agents of Atlas will be around in some form or another, since Gorilla Man is so prominent in the image.

I’m also taking away from this that the Thing isn’t going to be an Avenger – which relieves me greatly as quite honestly, the Thing as an Avenger just doesn’t work.

West Coast Avengers excluded, natch.

Spiders, Bendis and Skrulls, oh my…

I posted a few items earlier this week that I need to go back and comment on thanks to a couple of things that have come up in the last day or two…and here’s the first

Spider-Skrull Revisted!

Earlier this week I posted that I didn’t buy that Bendis had planned Spider-Woman as a Skrull from the start, and it was either a recent development or she was actually just ‘playing’ Skrull to see who she can flush out.
Well, in Secret Invasion #3 she certainly seems to be playing that role to a tee – zapping Echo in spite of the fact that she knows that she’s not a Skrull and trying to convince Tony that he is a Skrull…and if he is, I’ll eat my hat.

Thing is, I could still see this as ‘playing Skrull’ – she takes Echo out in case there’s a Skrull about watching her, and plays Tony to check he isn’t a Skrull himself.
Except…Bendis says in this interview that she is a Skrull, has been since the start of New Avengers, and it’s always been planned that way:

And the whole time I was writing her I’d think those fans are going to fucking lose their shit because we’ve had this planned since “New Avengers” #1. You can go back to issue #1 and see hints. There’s not a segment of the readership that I haven’t felt worse about doing this to than the Spider-Woman fans. I want to express publicly that your love of the character will not be lost.

Now you know why the “Spider-Woman” series didn’t happen. We thought about doing it and having her revealed as a Skrull in the first issue of her series. Last year, we we’re going to do the series and at the end of the issue she’d do something wrong, go off somewhere private and revert to Skrull form. It would be like, “Woah! The lead character of the book isn’t who she thought she was!” I wrote it, but in the end I just thought it wasn’t selling somebody what they thought you were selling them. But if you did it as part of a team book it’s much less bullshitty. You expect things to happen in a team book but if you’re buying “Spider-Woman,” you want Spider-Woman.

Apparently that last bit doesn’t apply if you’re buying Captain Marvel...Anyway, I still call shenanigans on this one, and not just because I like the word. Too much doesn’t make sense for her to be replaced by Skrulls, although in the comments on my previous post, reader The Line says:

i notice that in issue 2 jessica’s eyes were brown up until she fell into some water at the raft and wasent seen the rest of the issue. in issue 3 we didn’t even see how she got away but her eyes turned green and havent changed back to brown

If that’s right and it was indeed planned, then I think that instead of shenanigans, I call sloppy writing and plotting because there are just too many plot holes!

Shenanigans, sloppy writing or am I being too harsh? You decide!

Spider-Skrull…or not.

Unless you’ve been living under a rock (or simply don’t read Marvel in which case this’ll be of no interest to you), you’ll know that one of the Skrull infiltrators (and the Empress herself) in Marvel’s Secret Invasion is none other than Spider-Woman. Apparently this is part of Bendis’ long term plan…

…and I’m calling bullshit if he’s saying that because it doesn’t really gel with a lot of what Marvel and Bendis did.

Back when New Avengers kicked off, Wolverine (skulking in the Savage Land because a more convenient plot device to drag him into the group wasn’t around, apparently) attacked Spider-Woman because he ‘didn’t recognize’ her scent – which would be pretty unlikely because he’d worked with her a lot before. Of course, that points towards Skrullishness – except for the fact that as we’ve heard ad infinitum, Wolverine can’t tell Skrulls apart from who they impersonate by their scent. A more obvious reason would be that Jessica’s scent has been altered by whatever it was Hydra did to give her her powers back.

Or that Wolverine’s an idiot.

In the ‘reveal’ issue of New Avengers, the Skrulls pointed out to their Empress that Spider-Woman was ideally suited to being replaced. Well, not if she wasn’t a member of the Avengers she wasn’t, because she was doing sod all for years before that. Yet apparently she’s the ideal sleeper. This was pretty much intimated to being early on in the infiltration as well.


In Giant Size Spider-Woman, not only was her ‘re-origin’ story narrated by her (and clearly, actually the ‘real’ her not a Skrull impersonator) but she was clearly without powers – they were returned to her by Hydra. This was followed pretty soon after by another New Avengers arc where her role as a Hydra-SHIELD double agent (or possibly triple, can’t remember) was outlined. It was also in this story where the team held a press conference to introduce themselves.

That scene was revisited in a recent Secret Invasion crossover where Jarvis-Skrull accessed files on the Sentry to see how they could take him off the playing field. This is followed by a meeting with a number of Skrulls including Spider-Woman…but it doesn’t make any sense that she was really planned as a Skrull at this point unless she was replaced between pages of these issues.

Then there’s the big push that Marvel gave Spider-Woman when New Avengers was a hit, with a Spider-Woman: Origins mini and an announced Bendis-Maleev ongoing series. That ongoing was delayed allegedly as a result of Civil War but it now appears that it was because it was decided that Spider-Woman was a Skrull. That doesn’t quite tie in with her CW tie-in spotlight issue of New Avengers either, though – unless she was replaced after that, which then doesn’t tie in with the infiltration timeline.

I just think that when you really think through this whole thing, it seems very unlikely that Spider-Woman was planned as a Skrull from the beginning…simply because the ‘clues’ don’t add up.


Unless…

…unless it was planned from the beginning that Spider-Woman would be targeted for replacement as a Skrull – and any Skrully aspects, claims or games that she’s laying claim to are actually because she beat the crap out of the Skrull princess and isn’t sure who else to trust. That could, in theory, explain why she was affected by Dr Strange’s ‘find the duplicitous’ one spell.


And then, when she realised that none of the other New Avengers were Skrulls, she hightailed it over to the Mighty team because she figured there had to be some Skrulls on the team over there.

Eh, it’s a theory and it’s probably wrong – but if it turns out that she really is a Skrull, and if she is I won’t believe it till I see her wrinkly green chin, all I’m saying is that this wasn’t planned all along.

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